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A Goldsmith premiere from Intrada? Wow! - jgonlinemybb - 04-28-2023
Wow! A Goldsmith premiere being worked on by the amazing Intrada label!!!! But what could it be with so much of Goldsmith’s output already available? Intrigued and excited.
https://store.intrada.com/s.nl/sc.13/category.60330/.f
RE: A Goldsmith premiere from Intrada? Wow! - zaczac - 05-12-2023
Please, it would be a dream come true to record and rebuild the score of "Babe" or "The Kid" to listen again to new notes of more modern scores by the best film composer of all time, Jerry Goldsmith. How I miss him since 2003 his music touched my heart. love film music by jerry and currently the magic is gone on current composers.
RE: A Goldsmith premiere from Intrada? Wow! - jgonlinemybb - 05-16-2023
Thanks for joining and posting! We need more fans like you to come here.
I am intrigued about Babe. I think the Kid score was reused in later years. I can’t remember which one but did someone say the Timeline theme was from this? Not 100%. I guess the Babe must have elements from other scores from later in his career but sure would be good to hear what he wrote.
RE: A Goldsmith premiere from Intrada? Wow! - zaczac - 05-17-2023
It has long been vague exactly what Jerry Goldsmith composed for this film, before being booted from the project. Apparently it's another rejected score like Babe, where he didn't actually record any of it. In fact, while we've seen a photo of the thick manuscript score for Babe, we've never seen one for The Kid and some reports have claimed that Jerry only wrote a few demos for this project before leaving it.
Well guess what? Thanks to the Academy's new website of their holdings, we can see all of Jerry's cue titles for this score as composed and it turns out he wrote TWO DOZEN CUES for this film!
http://collections.new.oscars.org/Details/Archive/71303063?fbclid=IwAR1oTo-_qbJkwrFRhnjUQG0TdxNjCeWuutOGxksFL2EmVZGXOgYXoidJxao
Scene 1 "Main Title," 7 pages
2-1 "On Pier," 4 pages [Goldsmith sketch]
2-1 "On Pier," 7 pages [full score, orchestrated by Harvey R. Cohen]
3-1 "The Kid and Ross," 6 pages
Scene 15 "Single Malt," 2 pages
Scene 20a "The Kid in the Kitchen," 3 pages
Scene 23 "The Kid Takes Off," 13 pages
Scene 34 "On the Pier," 5 pages
Scene 38h "No Coffee," 1 page
Scene 44-47 "The Airplane Model," 11 pages
Scene 48 "Where's Chester," 8 pages
Scene 50 "The Old Horse," 4 pages
Scene 60 "Not Here," 1 page
Scene 69-72 "The Cat Is Right," 12 pages
Scene 77 "Relations," 5 pages
Scene 79 "The Kid and Amy," 6 pages
Scene 81 "She Believes Us," 5 pages
Scene 85 "No Pity," 2 pages
Scene 87-88 "What Happens Next," 10 pages
Scene 92 "Help Me," 15 pages
Scene 100-103 "Help Me (part 2)," 8 pages
Scene 114 "I'm Sorry," 5 pages
Scene 120 "I Found the Screw," 4 pages
Scene 125 "The Pilot," 10 pages
Scene 136 "Russ and Amy," 4 pages
Holy smokes! That's a substantial looking unreleased and *unrecorded* Goldsmith score. And in fact it looks like he got further along in this project than he did on Babe, though I would probably have to view the film in order to try and confirm that based on the track titles. Who is up for a Kickstarter campaign to record this score and Babe, and bring them to the world for the very first time?
Yavar
P.S. Here's a companion thread for Babe: https://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=138063&forumID=1&archive=0&pageID=1&r=290#bottom
RE: A Goldsmith premiere from Intrada? Wow! - jgonlinemybb - 05-19-2023
I remember Goldsmith wrote this score based on script and discussion on the film and never saw the film. The director and composer were quite enthusiastic at the time of trying something different but it was bound to fail. I am guessing when it came time to work with a film and perhaps fix his ideas he was on to another project. Be interesting to hear more on this.
RE: A Goldsmith premiere from Intrada? Wow! - Yavar Moradi - 05-19-2023
That’s *largely* true but not entirely true. Look at the cue list above which I discovered in the Herrick Library: almost every one is labeled by the scene, indicating him writing based just on the script. But “On Pier” and “The Kid and Ross” were exceptions to this and clearly written to film, because they have reel/part numbers instead. Maybe Goldsmith was rejected based on how those two cues put to film turned out?
Yavar
RE: A Goldsmith premiere from Intrada? Wow! - jgonlinemybb - 05-26-2023
Yep. Love to hear the full story on this one. We have bits of the story but more to tell to get the end to end account.